Posts by Anony Mous

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How Come we never saw this before????

by Newly Enlightened in

oh my goodness!

how come we never thought of this before?

if the israelites had animals to sacrifice to jehovah in the wilderness, then how come their god jehovah had to give them manna so they wouldn't starved to death?.

Anony Mous

The biggest question is, how did a million people travel the desert for 40y without water. If you remember, Aaron had to strike his staff against the rocks to create water, once. Supposedly 1M people and their livestock drank and washed from a single magic stream, moved and ... struck the staff against the rock again? No, because when Moses did that, God got so angry, Moses was forever banned from entering the Promised Land.

The logistics of the story alone are absurd. By the time you have moved that much people even just a mile down the road, they would've all died of dehydration or starvation.

Also God said that the rock will yield water. In ancient times, it was indeed understood that rocks contained water (because they often had 'springs' originating from between rock structures). God did speak a falsehood when he said the rock would yield its water because as we know, rocks do not yield water, they do not contain either hydrogen or oxygen.

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Do You Support Nancy Pelosi and The Democrats Way of Working On The Coronavirus?

by minimus in

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i think the american people need to get help on the coronavirus and leave it at that!

forget about adding things from the liberal agenda!

the house and the senate need to work together now to do their jobs..

Anony Mous

@RubaDub: The new COVID bill is full of pork, I would've voted against it until they took it all back out and put it back a week ago.

If you hear Dems complaining about bailouts of large corporations, they took out the loans program and made 50% of the business funding and 100% of the large corporation funding (eg. Boeing) into grants. Grants, unlike loans, is money you don't ever need to pay back. Even if the government were making some bad loans in the end it wasn't going to be 50-100% of the funding provided.

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Next we'll probably experience famine

by wannabefree in

this morning my wife made the comment ... "we'll probably experience famine next.".

i don't know that she'd come up with this on her own.

has anyone else heard a jw talking about this?.

Anony Mous

A thought.

If the JW's keep saying that the government has to attack 'false' religion before it attacks the 'true' religion (them), how come that at every turn, the government is prosecuting them first? Doesn't that imply they are the false religion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse#United_States

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

Anony Mous

Both Russia and China are lying a lot about the numbers. They're a dictatorship after all, having panic is dangerous for their rulers. The rate of recovery in China is amazing and the fact there are NO new cases is a miracle, it's almost as if they're cooking the numbers. Korea is seeing a resurgence in cases though.

As far as the map, the aggregation happens differently in the US now than elsewhere. Most countries and initially even states in the US were aggregated. Now they're splitting them up more and more if their local government does, the US has data down to zip code. Given the red circles aren't linear in size, it makes it look like the US is a terrible place but if you zoom, there's less than a handful cases in each instance. My zip code has <5 cases.

The spread and death rate in the US is actually an outlier - more people have it but fewer than 1% are dying. In Italy death rates are now at 10%. There is a difference somewhere there in healthcare methods and quality. Even the difference between CA and NY and the rest of the country is telling how well socialist healthcare is doing vs privatized healthcare.

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Will Governor Cuomo be the Next President?

by RubaDub in

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trying to put politics aside (even though that won't really work), but ny governor andrew cuomo is blowing the other politicians out out the water (orange man [trump] and the lizard [biden]).. i don't know if cuomo has a usb port in the back of his head plugged into a hard drive but the guy speaks, analyzes and talks coherently.

the orange man always passes difficult questions to someone else.

the lizard can't comprehend what the question is but tries to answer something.. cuomo comes out with facts, analysis and direction on what needs to be done.

Anony Mous

I work for a hospital system, we have ~25% of our ICU beds open and just re-opened a decommissioned ICU right here in NYS.

Cuomo's government is refusing to send people to our system because it's a 'privately owned' and not state-run system and thus the worry is that we cannot extract extra money (either in grants or rebates) from Federal government when this runs over. We're consigned to just handling people with insurance or Medicare.

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Will Governor Cuomo be the Next President?

by RubaDub in

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trying to put politics aside (even though that won't really work), but ny governor andrew cuomo is blowing the other politicians out out the water (orange man [trump] and the lizard [biden]).. i don't know if cuomo has a usb port in the back of his head plugged into a hard drive but the guy speaks, analyzes and talks coherently.

the orange man always passes difficult questions to someone else.

the lizard can't comprehend what the question is but tries to answer something.. cuomo comes out with facts, analysis and direction on what needs to be done.

Anony Mous

Oh hell no. That guy cannot be president, he’s barely even a governor. What has he done besides standing pretty for a camera and bashing on the Federal government?

NY kept schools open to keep ‘free lunch’ and ‘free healthcare’ in place, he said Trump wasn’t welcome, that NY would stay open until they had 20k+ cases. Then he bashes Trump for not responding fast enough when he welcomed people that traveled from China through Canada when the borders were closed, because ‘closing borders is racist’. Then using emergency powers they turn hotels and old hospitals into homeless shelters for COVID-19, then turns them into actual hospitals and demands hospital systems take care of thousands of homeless they made it illegal to take care of or remove before.

Cuomo had all the chances, like Gavin Newsome to do something about this, instead he’s begging for handouts because the state is broke, like CA is broke, except they make it look good on paper by not taking in account pensions and other future liabilities they aren’t funding.

On policy he’s a heavy taxation, heavy regulation, no small or large business is good enough (people are leaving NY to avoid taxes), 9-month abortion, government controls everything politician. His father was a politician and tied to the mobsters, which is how he and his brother got the job they have.

He also just raised a 5c tax on paper grocery bags and then made it illegal to have plastic bags. That’s while research has proven that paper bags are worse for the environment, but he needed his hidden taxation. NYS pays the highest property taxes in the US, I pay $8000/year in property taxes on a $200,000 house ($240000 in taxes for the duration of the mortgage) and I’m not even living in a city. We also pay the highest income taxes (19-75% progressive taxation) and now the billionaires are literally leaving the state so he bitches about that as well.

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Does capitalism DEPEND on socialism for its survival?

by The Fall Guy in

the banking industry needed the kiss-of-life 12 years ago via tax-payers' money; uk privatised railway companies are totally dependent on tax-payers' cash for survival, and now airlines will be queuing up to receive public money to ensure the survival of their private companies.

"european aviation faces a precarious future and it is clear that co-ordinated government backing tax-payer's money will be required to ensure the industry survives...” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51904769.

where should the line be drawn?.

Anony Mous

Infusing the market in case of emergency isn't socialism. Socialism is a state of emergency day in and out, it'd basically mean you're bailing out all thousands of businesses and ventures that fail every year, not just one time to stabilize an economy.

You're confusing capitalism with libertarianism though, a pure capitalistic country does not exist, the US is libertarian in its policies, there is room for government in some cases but for most of the rest, government (should) stay out of it. However as time progresses, the US has become a lot more socialist, ever since the New Deal and Social Security was established, we've pumped more and more money into the failing system.

Social Security is a clear demonstration of failed policy - if you were able to invest all your funds into a private fund instead of Social Security, your rate of return would be 4-6x higher - people would retire with, on average, $2M in the bank, instead the rate of return is 2%, barely enough to stave off inflation of the funds you originally 'invested'.

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School project on evolution

by Leonie1234 in

hey!.

first of all i want to mention that i'm not a member of the jehovahs witnesses.

however i'm open and non-judgemental towards any kind of religion.

Anony Mous

@Sea Breeze: You're utterly misrepresenting people. First of all, people that are skeptical of Darwinism, either don't understand it, have some religious reason that trumps both truth and evidence, or in case of some scientists, they have a slightly modified view of the current mainstream interpretations and are often misquoted as such.

The quote from Dr. Lewontin is both out of context and misinterpreted, he is basically arguing that you cannot accept supernatural explanations, how easy and obvious they may look because they do not match with reality. Materialism in science means basically "observable and subject to the scientific method", so by definition any explanation that is not materialistic cannot be accepted by anyone seeking truth and answers.

It is fine to have an alternative viewpoint, but you have to be able to substantiate it and prove it in a materialistic way. Just handwaving at it and declaring something the truth is not how people do science.

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School project on evolution

by Leonie1234 in

hey!.

first of all i want to mention that i'm not a member of the jehovahs witnesses.

however i'm open and non-judgemental towards any kind of religion.

Anony Mous

There are plenty of reasons why evolution is the primary theory of how things got there. You can see evolution in action if you have a petri dish and some solution that kills bacteria on one end and a solution that feeds them on the other - over time, generations of new bacteria will develop resistances to the deadly solution and sometimes even start evolving to use it as food.

Look up Sam Harris, Richard Dawking, Stephen Gould. Learn the history of evolution from Lamarck to Darwin. You can't just develop a conclusion if you don't know what the theory is in the first place.

You will have a hard time debunking the theory, because this scientific theory has been proven to be the most likely and correct explanation of a natural fact through experimentation and observation. It's very similar to an axiom in mathematics, it's just accepted to be true and to change that you'll need a significant amount of evidence to the contrary.

I sometimes put it as such: If you have evidence that the theory of evolution by natural selection is wrong, please write a paper to the contrary and pick up your Nobel price on the way - that's how impactful evidence that can be scientifically replicated would be.

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How Will the Quarantined Dubbies React When the "All Clear" Sounds?

by Room 215 in

seriously, i can't help wondering whether their hiatus from meetings and service will alter their post-covid-19 lifestyle once they experience the freedom of life in the absence of the hamster wheel?.

Anony Mous

One big reason is going to be when they have to join the online meeting and instead of the address bar, a lot of people will use Google to find the 'correct site' and see some interesting snippet of text from an "APOSTATE WEBSITE" on their first page. They will initially ignore it, but sooner or later, curiosity will kill the cat.